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Resposta #30 Online: 18 de Julho de 2013, 13:12:29
Putz, pior que esse preço não ficaria tão fora da casinha, pois as FF de entrada estão na faixa de 2 mil dólares. Seria o preço a pagar pela portabilidade maior dessa Nex FF.

Tomara que tenha dials como a Nex 7, daí sim!
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Resposta #31 Online: 18 de Julho de 2013, 13:19:58
No site, está dizendo que o preço da Nex FF será na casa dos 3 mil dólares.

Parece que vai ter estabilizador no corpo! Será excelente para lentes manuais antigas.

 :eek: :eek:

Carinha hein!!
Mas para hobbista, tendo a praticidade de uma mirrorless com o apelo FF, pode ser um excelente set único daí... Na fila da venda de órgãos!!  :D


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Resposta #32 Online: 18 de Julho de 2013, 13:36:40
Putz, pior que esse preço não ficaria tão fora da casinha, pois as FF de entrada estão na faixa de 2 mil dólares. Seria o preço a pagar pela portabilidade maior dessa Nex FF.

Tomara que tenha dials como a Nex 7, daí sim!

Não só portabilidade - pense assim: que câmera FF de entrada consegue usar lentes Leica além daquela que custa 20k?  :assobi: :assobi: :assobi: ou que câmera FF consegue usar aquelas  lentes Minolta MD ou Canon FD sem adaptações quase que destrutivas? Ou ainda - que câmera usa lente Contax (ou Contax G - !!!!) com focus peaking e magnify de um jeito tão bom assim?  :assobi:

Cara, isso é um back digital 35mm - as possibilidades disso são quase que infinitas se você usar um simples adaptador.  Vai dar nova vida a um monte de coisa legal por aí  :assobi:

Ah sim, vocês viram? Os rumores falam sobre corpo selado com estabilização 5-axis... não temos nada assim por aí
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Resposta #33 Online: 18 de Julho de 2013, 18:17:52
No site, está dizendo que o preço da Nex FF será na casa dos 3 mil dólares.

Parece que vai ter estabilizador no corpo! Será excelente para lentes manuais antigas.

Estabilizador no corpo.... nussa!!!
Back digital 35mm, isso mesmo... as possibilidades são realmente infinitas!!
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Resposta #34 Online: 24 de Julho de 2013, 13:30:16
Também tô na fila pra vender um rim... kkk
Uma câmera FF estilo Leica M9 a preço mais acessível é tudo de bom!
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Resposta #35 Online: 31 de Julho de 2013, 08:25:58
Notícias sobre a primeira lente, uma Zeiss 35mm f/2.8  :clap:

(SR4) The first NEX-FF prime lens is the Zeiss 35mm f/2.8.


Finally some real concrete info on the new NEX-FF system!

According to two sources the first prime lens to be announced along the new NEX-FF camera will be the Zeiss 35mm f/2.8. A perfect lens for street photography. Some of you may wnated it faster but this would have made the lens way too big! The Sony-Zeiss goal was to make it as compact and as high quality as possible. And I think that’s a great start for the new NEX-FF camera system!


http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-the-first-nex-ff-prime-lens-is-the-zeiss-35mm-f2-8/
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Resposta #36 Online: 07 de Agosto de 2013, 19:28:16
Um pouco mais de informações.

(SR4) NEX-FF only 15% bigger than the NEX-7. Available in October.


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I am still waiting to get images and full specs of the new NEX-FF. But in the meantime one source shared another bit of info on the new camera:

The NEX-FF photo camera (final name still unknown) will have a Sony NEX-7 similar design. But it is 15% more volume and has some 20% more weight than the NEX-7.  As I told you before three different new FF sensors have been tested by Sony, 24, 32 and 36 Megapixel. I am yet not 100% sure but Sony may picked up the 32MP sensor. What I am sure about is that it will be announced along two Zeiss FF lenses. A zoom and a prime. The prime is 35mm f/2.8 (Note that Zeiss already made a Biogon 35mm f/2.8 as M-mount (here on eBay)). It is said that the camera will be announced on September 24 and shipment starts end of October. Price for the body is a bit less than $3000 (like the RX1 and RX1R series).

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-nex-ff-only-15-bigger-than-the-nex-7-available-in-october/
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Resposta #37 Online: 07 de Agosto de 2013, 19:34:57
Um pouco mais de informações.

(SR4) NEX-FF only 15% bigger than the NEX-7. Available in October.


5


I am still waiting to get images and full specs of the new NEX-FF. But in the meantime one source shared another bit of info on the new camera:

The NEX-FF photo camera (final name still unknown) will have a Sony NEX-7 similar design. But it is 15% more volume and has some 20% more weight than the NEX-7.  As I told you before three different new FF sensors have been tested by Sony, 24, 32 and 36 Megapixel. I am yet not 100% sure but Sony may picked up the 32MP sensor. What I am sure about is that it will be announced along two Zeiss FF lenses. A zoom and a prime. The prime is 35mm f/2.8 (Note that Zeiss already made a Biogon 35mm f/2.8 as M-mount (here on eBay)). It is said that the camera will be announced on September 24 and shipment starts end of October. Price for the body is a bit less than $3000 (like the RX1 and RX1R series).

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-nex-ff-only-15-bigger-than-the-nex-7-available-in-october/


todo dia eu estou lendo este site  :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: espero que a Sony daqui do Brasil faça o favor de lançar essa belezura aqui e tomar meu dinheiro.
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Resposta #38 Online: 18 de Agosto de 2013, 15:28:14
Olá pessoal,

Estou acompanhando essa NEX Full Frame e acho interessante abrir um tópico a respeito:

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr4-nex-ff-only-15-bigger-than-the-nex-7-available-in-october/

Eu uso NEX 6 e Canon T4i e, como tamanho para mim é importante (gosto de usar a câmera o mais discreto e confortável possível), somado ao fato de haver detestado o tamanho da Canon 6D e da Nikon D600 para meu uso (hobby somente), acho que a NEX FF seria uma excelente alternativa.

Abraço


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Resposta #39 Online: 18 de Agosto de 2013, 16:14:40
efilho, já estamos torcendo e acompanhando neste tópico:

http://forum.mundofotografico.com.br/index.php?topic=74820.0

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Resposta #40 Online: 18 de Agosto de 2013, 16:31:45
Ops, não tinha visto, podem trancar este aqui...  :assobi:


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Resposta #41 Online: 18 de Agosto de 2013, 16:38:37
Tudo coincidindo com esta avaliação da LensRentals sobre tendências:

"-Zeiss, which is a member of the 4/3 consortium, decided to develop lenses for Fuji and NEX cameras, but not micro 4/3. Still, I don’t expect micro 4/3 to vanish in the next couple of years, but I think it might by 2018. Panasonic’s overall problems would limit their interest in picking up Olympus’ cameras and Sony has made it pretty clear they’re investing in Olympus’ medical equipment division, not consumer imaging. Fuji and Sony seem to be aggressively innovating and pursuing the imaging market so I don’t expect they’re going anywhere. Both also have extensive patent portfolios in sensors so they’re almost doubly invested in succeeding. Canon appears to be very aggressively pursuing growth in the video segment and maintaining their photography business. It seems Nikon is concentrating on trying to take market share in the photography arena. Sony is starting the mirrorless FF, no use investing in NEW sdlr gear!"

Abraço


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Resposta #42 Online: 19 de Agosto de 2013, 11:40:53
Essa câmera é um sonho... Inclusive pelo preço que está se prevendo  :doh:
Quem sabe, quem sabe...  :snack:


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Resposta #43 Online: 29 de Agosto de 2013, 20:49:13
Não tinha visto essa postagem no site, de sexta passada. Parece que vai começar com filmadoras, e a princípio não haveria muitas lentes E-mount FF. :ponder: O autor acredita que o processo pode ser meio lento.  :no:



http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-personal-e-mount-ff-summary/

The personal E-mount FF summary (and link to Photoclubalpha)


Something personal first:
Every time I post a “bigger than usual” rumor I confess that I do hit the “Publish” button with quite a mixed feeling. On one side it’s nice after a long work of digging and searching to share a news to you folk. On the other side there is certain anxiety caused by many factors. First it’s hard for me to use right words because and right arguments in a non native language. I hope you are always aware of that. I often see that your “perception” of a rumor often differs a bit (or a lot) depending on what kind of words I used or not. So I am going to be very careful within that post :) Than of course the biggest anxiety is that a rumor turns out to be wrong. I have been mostly right on SR5 rumors I posted in the past but I know well that all my long work will get messed up if I do one very big mistake only. And the day may come this will happen. I know for certain that there are different “elements” that have interest to spread wrong rumors. There are many reasons to do that (and I may explain them in detail in a future post). And that’s why the biggest work I do on SAR is not the writing of the article, but the long an patient work of waiting and searching and again waiting and trying to find out more from different sources.

Technical aspects of the “E-mount FF”
After posting the E-mount FF rumor sceptical argued that 1) an FF sensor wouldn’t fit within the current E-mount 2) FF E-mount lenses would be almost impossible to make. I am glad that David Kilpatrick wrote that article on Photoclubalpha (Click here). It’s a very technical summary that clearly explains you that “it is possible“. And Sony itself (read Toru Kotsumotu at DC.watch) said that the NEX mount has been designed with Full Frame sensor in mind. Again, thanks to David for your very well written article!

The Sony strategy around the “E-mount FF”
I will sum up in very short what I heard from trusted sources:
1) There will be soon a Sony official news related to the E-mount FF. Actually from what I heard it looks like Sony “anticipated” and pushed the E-mount FF development.
2) At least the first E-mount FF camera is not something interesting for 98% of our readers. They will be Camcorders. To make it even more clear. No NEX-7 alike E-mount FF camera is coming right now. But I have been told it is “on schedule”.  And there are different prototypes, some with E-mount FF and some with A mount FF. I will have more info about that within that week!
3) For now Sony decided to NOT introduce any E-mount FF lenses. The initial strategy is to use current Alpha mount lenses via a “special adapter” and other Full Frame lenses (read Leica and so on) via adapter. It is my personal understanding that current E-mount lenses are NOT designed for FF. But current E-mount lenses will work in crop mode on future E-Mount FF cameras.
4) There is no info yet if Sony will ever design FF E-mount lenses for that system. My very personal suggestion for Sony on that point is….Do it!!!

Why I do believe the “E-mount FF” could be a (too slow) revolution.
The Canon/Nikon domination in the Full Frame world is almost absolute. It is my believe that one way to become competitive is to offer something completely new like it would be by launching a Full Frame mirrorless system. Now I believe to know through my sources that Sony is going to do that…but my fear is that they will do it too slowly. It would have been nice to have E-Mount FF lenses right from the start (but again they will not!). The risk is they will still “give” Nikon and Canon the chance to catch up after some time. The current limited NEX lens range is an example of how Sony should NOT act. The cameras are extremely popular but the camera owners can’t buy the right lenses for it. Sony missed the chance to expand considerably their market share explosively and they misses some “easy” earnings too.

So like it was with the SLT and NEX (APS-C) introduction Sony will again “start a new revolution” but with the risk that they will be “too slow in fulfilling it“. Let’s hope they will listen to the voice of the real customers…you!

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Resposta #44 Online: 30 de Agosto de 2013, 07:10:24
Não tinha visto essa postagem no site, de sexta passada. Parece que vai começar com filmadoras, e a princípio não haveria muitas lentes E-mount FF. :ponder: O autor acredita que o processo pode ser meio lento.  :no:



http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/the-personal-e-mount-ff-summary/


Calma, calma! Isso que você postou é de 23 de agosto de 2012  :assobi:
Você devia postar este link - falam até de AF no sensor usando qualquer tipo de lente

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-breakthrough-on-rumor-front-plenty-of-new-sony-e-mount-cameras-to-come-soon-and-more-e-and-a-mount-info/
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